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How do you guys feel about the new Nova series starting up with #1 on Feb 20, 2013?

I don't know anything about this character. What do I need to read to catch up?

Thanks.

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Blume wrote:How do you guys feel about the new Nova series starting up with #1 on Feb 20, 2013?

I don't know anything about this character. What do I need to read to catch up?

Thanks.

For this Nova?

His first appearance is Marvel Point One (2011) . Brief 3 or 4 pages of him trying to reason with Tyrax. Then the Phoenix shows up and destroys the planet their on.

Avengers Vs X-Men Infinite #1 digital comic. It's like a 15 page cameo of the character...he's flying from the Phoenix Force while talking to himself, then crashes on Earth.

Then he appears for about 3 pages in AvX #1 where he crashes on Earth (again for the same time).

AvX #12 he sucker punches the big bad villain then gets the crap smacked out of him. Thor invites him to the Avengers...

Marvel Now Point One (2012) short story of him getting ambushed on his way home from AvX battle.



As for the original Nova? I'd go back and read the Annihilation event...then follow from there.

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Awesome thanks Corwin. I'll check them out for sure.

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The only down side to starting with Annihilation is that's a different Nova. So if you get invested in the character (which is easy because he's awesome), you will be reading someone different now.

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choanata wrote:The only down side to starting with Annihilation is that's a different Nova. So if you get invested in the character (which is easy because he's awesome), you will be reading someone different now.

True but being a fan of GL I'm sure he'd like to see the Nova Corps or even see what a Nova can do.

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Hmm. I just bought the digital for AvX Infinite #1 so I'll start there with the new Nova and follow the new series and then eventually go back to the old ones.

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Anyone pick up Nova #1 yesterday? I did and thought it was great.

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Scott (formally Blume) wrote:Anyone pick up Nova #1 yesterday? I did and thought it was great.

I ordered a copy and it'll be coming in my final DCBS shipment.

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Odinson91 wrote:
Scott (formally Blume) wrote:Anyone pick up Nova #1 yesterday? I did and thought it was great.

I ordered a copy and it'll be coming in my final DCBS shipment.

Same. Except for that "final" part Neutral I'm expecting this issue to look amazing because Ed McGuiness draws it, but probably won't be that good a read, because Jeff Loeb wrote it.

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gland wrote:
Odinson91 wrote:
Scott (formally Blume) wrote:Anyone pick up Nova #1 yesterday? I did and thought it was great.

I ordered a copy and it'll be coming in my final DCBS shipment.

Same. Except for that "final" part Neutral I'm expecting this issue to look amazing because Ed McGuiness draws it, but probably won't be that good a read, because Jeff Loeb wrote it.

I actually really enjoyed it and looking forward to more. I'm not very familiar with Jeff Loeb which is probably good.

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Loeb is a writer who's work I feel bad for saying bad things about, because I think the point at which his writing started to take a dive was a little ways before his son died.

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I kinda thought it took a dive afterwards, which is understandable. Although it does make me nervous about picking up new books by him. Although I did grab Nova #1 yesterday. Have not read it yet, but I wonder if there will be a similar effect with Loeb writing a 15 year old boy to when Johns wrote Stargirl after his sister.

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choanata wrote:I kinda thought it took a dive afterwards, which is understandable. Although it does make me nervous about picking up new books by him. Although I did grab Nova #1 yesterday. Have not read it yet, but I wonder if there will be a similar effect with Loeb writing a 15 year old boy to when Johns wrote Stargirl after his sister.

The background I'm learning about Loeb from you guys is making this series even more interesting.

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Read #1 today. Liked it a lot, actually. The family side of things is especially interesting, and I love the art.

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I liked it. I liked the basic premise of how he's going to be a Nova. I thought he himself was an irritating puke. And I hated the concept that this former hero father is a drunken mess barely getting by on Earth. Like really? He got back to Earth and couldn't bother to pull himself together for his kids? Some hero.

I liked the art in some spots, thought it was just ok in others. I'm debating checking back for another issue or just trade waiting. Or skipping it altogether. Not sure yet.

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Being a super hero out in the jsmffneonnvfoggha system doesn't mean anything to your ability to make things work as a classic family man on Earth trying to earn a living. I love the idea of his kid not believing any of it, and thinking it's just stories that some loser tells because he's drunk.

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I read the first issue. Thought it was good. I just don't agree with the price point. I think for a main character who is so unproven as this kid is, I think a $2.99 price point would have made more sense. Hell, I would have stayed away just from the creative team and it's not that I don't like artist but Loeb's work makes me not want to just back away from a book these days. Now, having said that, this was a good start. I do know that this character is the Nova in the Ultimate Spider-Man cartoon, so I guess that's something, right? I guess we'll see how this goes but Nova books have a tendency of not lasting very long.

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choanata wrote:I thought he himself was an irritating puke. And I hated the concept that this former hero father is a drunken mess barely getting by on Earth. Like really? He got back to Earth and couldn't bother to pull himself together for his kids? Some hero.

You're the second person I've seen say exactly that, and I still don't get it. If what you're best at is being an outer space black ops super hero, how does that make you good at holding down a nine to five job in an American suburb? He did try, but the best he could do was a janitor, presumably because he isn't qualified to do much else...except be an outer space black ops super hero.

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What about private security company? Or go into the military? Maybe he was too old for that. Seems like the Nova Corps doesn't train their personnel to do anything productive if they retire. That's a sad thought.

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I really doubt the Green Lantern Corps does either. Look at what happened when both Guy and Hal got kicked out of the GLC over the last 15 months, they had basically nothing to fall back on.

I get the notion of "he's a super hero, therefore his inherent ability to pull through should rise to the top and get him a good job and make him successful in all he does", but it's not as simple as that. How old is he? What qualifications/skills does he have? Does he WANT a job that'll keep him off the radar? How much money does he have (more realistically, how much money does his WIFE have)? With a baby on the way, can they afford to re-locate? If not, what oppertunities are local? And let's not forget, this book takes place TODAY, and the job market is still pretty shitty.

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Being a super hero means after facing world killing threats, you have to have more than a little self confidence. Remember when Kyle went from rookie to finally accepting that he was a good hero and no longer a rookie? That's when he grasped the self confidence to do the job. That kind of self confidence translates to other things, lots of other things. Knowing that you can accomplish anything you put your mind to, that's the skill. And other people pick up on that confidence, and it you're not an asshole about it, then they admire it in you. They want to help you. It's why jocks and cheerleaders are at the top of high school hierarchy in terms of popularity.

I get that there's a needed cool down period after you disconnect from the job of super heroing, because you're going balls to the wall and then suddenly stop, but after you reaclimate, you should be doing decent. I'm not saying former heroes must be super successful or anything, and if this kid's father was a custodian and did his job well, that would be great. But he gets so stinking drunk he can't even do the job. It's like he rejects reality and needs to escape into the bottle, even if it means turning his back on his kids, and that's what I have an issue with.

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The biggest difference with Guy and John is that the don't have a secret identity. They might have gotten the jobs if they weren't known Green Lanterns. At least Guy probably would have. Not so sure about John. The thing about the Green Lanterns is that they more or less bring with them some kind of training that seems to help them as a Green Lantern. Hal is a fighter pilot. John is a Marine and a architect. Guy was a cop and maybe a football coach. Not sure if that is still a thing in the New 52. Also Kyle is an artist. They all had skills to make it in the real world. I can't absolutely say that about Sam's dad.

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Self confidence is great, but it's a lot like hope: believing something can happen will only get you so far. If other factors don't fall in line, you're still not gonna succeed.

You both hit on a key point here: we don't actually know a whole lot about Sam's dad. All we know about the YEARS between leaving the Novas and his son's origin story is that he became a janitor. We don't know why. We also don't know why he drinks. Look at the pre-destruction shot of his bedroom again. The guy's obviously a little paranoid, keeping tabs on whatever info about alien visitation he can through the news. Plus, he took that recorder robot with him when he left.

Here's what I think happened: Sam's dad left the Novas, and went back to Earth, to hide/guard that recorder robot. They picked him because he was the only one with a family. He buried the robot in the desert, and became a family man. Lay low with a modest job that won't get him noticed, which works out especially well because there aren't very many job opportunities in the middle of nowhere in today's job market. Even still, he's constantly looking over his shoulder, because there are dangerous people out there who want that robot. As his family grows, he gets happier and happier, AND more and more nervous...the more time passes, the more he has to lose. He starts to obsess a little over news reports of alien activity, he saves news clippings, he makes a big chart on his wall, exc. He starts drinking to help deal with it. Just like his son, he's trapped in that little town...the difference being, it's the idea of that life ending that terrifies him. If the Novas want him back, he has to leave his family. If the badguys come calling, his family may die. And every day one of those DOESN'T happen is another day of paranoia and fear. I'll be extremely surprised if his sudden disappearance (and whole in the wall) isn't the result of big bad aliens showing up to take back that robot.

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That makes a lot of sense to me. You gotta think that Sam's dad saw a lot as a member of the Nova Corps and not just a member but a black ops member. You have to think that normal life on Earth can't compare to what he's experienced and maybe that has something to do with his current situation.

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Yeah, a life of black ops has got to mess you up.

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